fanatic-777
NAME: Zealous for Jesus
LOCATION: Spiritual battlefield | AGE: 9
PROFILE VIEWS: 8070 | MEDIA RATED: 97 | COMMENTS: 225
RANK: 434 | GROUP: The Janitors
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by wood09, September 10 2009 : 2:42pm |
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by Joey Trippinani, May 15 2008 : 10:30am |
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by slamdawg9, April 29 2008 : 1:27pm |
I'll say this much for you: Your convictions speak volumes about your character. I may never have the same beliefs as you do, but I honestly believe you are a good and decent man. And that itself is a rare enough thing in this world today. If religion works for you, then it's a good thing. 
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by RobbyToxic, April 28 2008 : 10:31pm |
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by fanatic-777, April 28 2008 : 4:05pm |
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by fanatic-777, April 28 2008 : 2:41pm slamdawg9 on April 23 2008 : 7:18am wrote: .Hi fanatic, been awhile since I've seen you around. Wow, I see you've got a very interesting debate going on here. As someone else already mentioned, I truly admire your convictions and your unshakable stance in your beliefs. But I would have to agree with Varholy, religion is the biggest con game ever perpetrated on mankind, it's a man-made thing, conceived by mortals who lived and died, just like we do in modern times. It has always been a means for power hungry madman to control the masses through fear. I do not doubt the existense of a 'creator' (God, creative force, however you choose to look at it) because hey, this universe didn't create itself. But I don't believe there is anyone on the face of this entire earth who can comprehend who, or what God (the creative force) is. How could they? Sure, certain people have claimed to have visions, but how could they possibly know they're authentic? I've seen what I truly believed was a ghost, and a UFO, but people have laughed at me about it. Yet people will automatically accept the claims of a 'religious experience'? I've no doubt that religion is a good thing, for people who truly have a strong sense of morals and want to live their life doing the right thing. But the majority of folks (if they would admit it) would tell you they go to church, and they got saved because they wanted to go to heaven, instead of hell. See what's wrong with this picture? Would a loving, 'biblical' God rule through fear? I could go on all day about this, but I'll sum it up this way, these are my beliefs: We are all born with free will, for a reason. It's up to us to make our own way through life, and make decisions for ourselves, not rely on a two-thousand year old text telling us how to live our lives. (iDoSay made some very interesting points, btw) I do believe that our souls do live on, and I also believe in karma. We reap what we sow. If you're a miserable S.O.B in this life, you'll still be a miserable S.O.B whereever you end up after you leave this plane of existense. And vice-versa for a 'good', decent person. It's up to us to become the best person we can be, and no one else. . Hi Slam, sorry for the late reply but I had no choice. One thing is certain, man has created many religions and has worshipped rocks, rivers, and animals. . But it's only Christians that are devoted to their God to the point of sincerely being willing to die for Him, such was the case of martyrs. That's definitely something you should take into account (Take any pagan, I'm sure not one of them would die for an idol made in gold). This is because zealous Christians (including me) claim to have a relationship with God. In no other religion will you find this, including islam (their false god is "so transcendent, so exalted that no man can ever personally know him"), buddhism (is it really a religion? Buddha was a mortal), hinduism as well. The scriptures say: "If you seek me with all your heart, you will find me",Deuteronomy 4:29 This is something I've done with good results. .But the majority of folks (if they would admit it) would tell you they go to church, and they got saved because they wanted to go to heaven, instead of hell. See what's wrong with this picture? Would a loving, 'biblical' God rule through fear? It can't be avoided, people have to know about Hell to see where the consequences of their acts can lead them.The people you're talking about didn't know Him before going to Church, so it's not surprising they make that image of Him. God was right when He said in John8; 41,42 44 "I have been misrepresented by those who don't know me." He does not rule through fear,for those who know Him, but through love for those who turn from their sins (repent) and make Him the Lord of their life. . When you say "I don't believe there is anyone on the face of this entire earth who can comprehend who, or what God (the creative force) is. How could they?" I have to disagree. You can know Him, by faith (and prayer) and reading the Bible. For faith two important scriptures come to mind:"If you seek me with all your heart, you will find me",Deuteronomy 4:29 Commit your actions to the Lord,and your plans will succeed.Proverbs 16:3. When placing trust (with any doubts) in the Lord you can accomplish a lot in life. You should give it a try. The Bible teaches us how He is and what He's done: He is a God of Love(He says: John 4:16: "I am not distant and angry, but am the complete expression of love" ; 1 John 3-1 "It is my desire to lavish My love on you" and in Psalm 37,4 "delight in Me and I will give you the desires of your heart. When writing these words I just realised how terrible sin is, because you're offending and saddening Someone who loves you with a powerful, undescriptable love no matter what you do. Therefore God does not rule through fear for those who know Him and follow His teachings, but through love. . When you say religion is a way for power-hungry madmen to control masses through fear, that is true. But those power-hungry madmen are those to blame, not religion, for they are the ones who twist the original message of religion for their own purposes. . You saw a ghost and a UFO !? That's awesome. I have never seen any such thing, but I really do hope you were not impressed when you were laughed at. People thought it was ridiculous, but that's their subjective opinion and they have nothing to prove you are wrong and that ghosts and spirits don't exist.So you should'nt take their opinion in account. Actually there is proof ghosts and spirits exist: exorcism. I'd like to ask the people who laughed at you how come some people become posessed by evil spirits,and how come exorcists use Holy Water, Crucifixes, special prayers to God and even Bibles to cast those spirits (and sometimes demons) out. Those who laughed at you would have probably thought the same things as you if they'd seen those apparitions, and they can laugh as much as they want but it doesn't change the fact that you saw something unormal. Don't put too much trust in human intelligence, it is not infallible. BTW doesn't the fact you saw a ghost or a spirit contradict karma to some extent ? I think your claims to have seen a ghost are perfectly valid. . Sure, certain people have claimed to have visions, but how could they possibly know they're authentic? Take a look at these links, there are more than simple visions: http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidenc e03.html. Science still has no answer http://www.insightsofgod.com/ (This site shows cases of Jesus appearing to radical muslims and convincing them to turn to Him and become Christians. I find that amazing) http://bibleprobe.com/nde.htm http://www.spiritlessons.com/ http://bibleprobe.com/nde.htm I think no reasonable Christian would dare lie about feeling what the Afterlife is like for fear of punishment in accordance to such a lie. . I agree to some extent with the following: "We are all born with free will, for a reason. It's up to us to make our own way through life, and make decisions for ourselves, not rely on a two-thousand year old text telling us how to live our lives". I believe God did make us to chose our own path in life, to follow His teachings or follow our own desires. If he'd created us with no free will we'd be like robots unable to have genuine love for Him and others and feel other feelings in our heart. God leaves us free with choice, but of course this choice has consequences. Lastly, I'm not forcing my beliefs on you, that's just what I think. |
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